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Originally Posted by Bike Gremlin
Do you have any ideas about an idiot-friendly data sheet that could be printed and left at a bike shop?

I'm thinking along the lines of:
- spoke side: L / R
- breaking point: elbow / nipple
- tension generally even: (can an up to +-20% variation be considered even enough for the intended purposes?) Yes / No
- tension on the broken side: Low / Optimal / High

Not sure if it makes sense to gather separate data for right, and left side spokes, or whether it's better to just concentrate on the broken spoke side.
What do you think?

Relja
Have to be careful about the focus on tension.

On the hand we want the tension to be high . . .

. . . but FB would tell you himself what it's like working with Martano's and Fiamme's - and assuming he's done wood rims - the same.

And Jobst Brandt if he were still alive would remind everyone that ALL wheels and THEIR spokes benefit from proper stress relieving.

And how do you check for proper stress relieving of a wheel YOU didn't build AND cannot determine the build sorce thereof for follow-up?

These uncontrolled or hard-to-verify variables rear their ugly heads real quick.

That's why we have lab testing.

Here's a gem on lab testing from the ghost himself:

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/...dnsoldered.htm

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