I understand now why that wouldn't work. The last time I had to hang my bike was in an open baggage car in DC in route to Pittsburgh and we had much more room as the hooks were along a wall with no dividers and a cinch to stabilize them. Also they were held much higher. Below is the way the River Runner route has worked the last two times I have taken it and I'm hoping it will be the same this fall as I plan on making use of it again. On only one car, they have left out a single seat so as to accommodate their 4 bike maximum.