Originally Posted by Fentuz

I'm not saying that the carbon components you have on the bike are either good or bad however, because they are claimed to be T800 don't mean are good or bad. T800 is the raw material used and while is important, the way it was lay in the mold, the number of layers, overlaps, directions, resin filler, bubble etc. is what define the product as good or bad.

Many cheap (and/or "dry") carbon frames exhibited poor manufacturing process, quality issues and failed causing arm.