Originally Posted by Duragrouch

I believe you. Some of that would make sense, some not. The same bike sold in the USA is higher priced, both for the market, and to price in USA liability, I think, the latter may push the retail price too high. On the other hand, they have aniversary editions that are ridiculously priced, so I think that obviates that argument. The fact is, with the design and tooling already paid for, it makes no sense to not sell a model here, especially if only differing in accessories and not frame design. Selling only a Launch D8 doesn't make sense when they could be selling a D16/18/20 with a 2X crank. The fact that 2X is selling overseas means they understand that megarange 1X is not perfect for all applications, especially 20". The old Formula 16 (2X, discs) didn't sell here because it was 3X the price of a Speed. Same for the TR, although I didn't buy that also because I didn't want IGH. I could see Dahon going up-market in response to competition from Zizzo, Origami, et al, and that Archer looks it, and can succeed in the USA if not ridiculously priced. However, folders may be selling better in countries where mass-transit is far more used than in the USA, folders are really only needed for multi-mode, travel, or stashing under a desk if commuting. Someone on here said the folder market is stagnant, since e-bikes took off.

It probably doesn't matter for me, as my old Speed D7 is serving me well in 14 speed trim, full racks and panniers, thus I like what may be additional fatigue strength of chrome-moly steel over aluminum. I think the only reason I would pop for a new bike would be for disc brakes, as something like an Origami disc bike may not be that much more money than swapping my 74mm fork for a 100mm one with disc mounts, and a new disc-equipped front wheel, caliper, and lever. I could get by with only a disc on the front.

It'll be interesting to see what Dahon does.

On that Archer, the smoothed welds, has Dahon been doing that for several years, or is that new for 2024?