[MENTION=458880]Duragrouch[/MENTION], I've never had a 20" gear. Not everyone spins going up hills. I'm 63 years old and still climb big hills with a load on the bike. I'm not saying that to boast but to say that there are different approaches to hill climbing. There's nothing wrong with the advice you gave our fellow, but you used the words "you need," and well, you didn't need them.