Originally Posted by andrewclaus

Every week I meet a small group of senior men (70 +/-) for two laps of the 8 mile scenic loop at Saguaro NP. There are some 8% grades, one of them long. There's usually one guy who forgets to downshift, and everyone laughs.

One guy just started riding a couple years ago, and he laughs at the hills now. He says he thought they were mountains when he started.