I bought an all-road Black label 2 years ago and honestly I've got no negative comments other than the Apex. Derailleur was fair at first, but I upgraded it to a GX + changed out the shifter to a force... I bought mine with the carbon fiber monster fork, I weigh about 250 lb at 6'2 It's the largest frame they make at 59 in. The mechanical brakes are showing their age even with an upgraded set of brake pads. Really all easy fixes, for the price. I've put a lot of miles on it in the last 2 years. It really is a solid platform