Originally Posted by Duragrouch

Oh I know, I saw your "builds" thread. Plus the astounding deals you get on parts! I'm guessing total is 1/4 what equal quality would cost for Dahon, a bit larger portion compared to better competitors these days. (I know you're not a fan of Dahon, it's just a known yardstick in folders.) With costs for same stuff in the USA, it would be a whole lot closer to production cost. Which I would do if getting a framestyle that cannot be bought turnkey for same cost.

I'm really starting to notice critical details; The Tyrell Ive is an elegant looking folder and in chrome moly, no mid-hinge, rear wheel folds to overlap the front triangle, and with folding fork (folds similar to Helix), folds within a couple inches of 62" airline with wheels on. But 355 wheels, rim brakes, and seat tube forward of the bottom bracket shell, so too far forward for front derailleur mount. But it's those two folding features that make it fold a lot smaller than a Bike Friday without disassembly. With the explosion of designs, sooner or later someone will put it all together in one design. I'm not traveling yet, I've got time.