Originally Posted by mstateglfr

Good lord.

The tubing is unbranded, but it is not low quality. It is heat treated and .8/.5/.8 butted.
The geometry is very neutral but not sluggish. It is designed to be able to handle 32mm tires plus fenders.

Mike Varley, the brand's owner, is a long time industry guy who designed for many brands and has owned his own shop and small brand for like 15+ years.

Black Mountain as a brand is very well established and very well received...by people who geek on steel frames that are well designed.


- the fact that the valve stems are long is not indicitive of anything.
- the frame is easily worth $300, assuming no dents or scratches.
- the other components...well that's subject to if you want em or not.

If I saw that around me for $450, I wouldn't think twice.