Originally Posted by
Atlas Shrugged
you seem to continuously focus on fraudulent returns in this thread. For your premise to actually apply the individual must first buy an original from a supplier then purchase a known knock off. Then repackage with the fake in the authentic packaging. Then return the product to the supplier. Except for a very rare instance, I highly doubt this is an actual problem for the manufacturers or suppliers.
These items you’re continuously referring to are niche items within a niche aspect of the sport and frankly inconsequential in the big picture. One of the common fallacies when stating the impact of knock off products is the assumption the purchaser of the knockoff has any intention of purchasing an original. For example, a purchaser of a knock off Rolex is highly unlikely the potential purchaser of an original
As I said earlier:
Originally Posted by
Spoonrobot
I posted the article to show that return fraud is a real issue, but let me cite my own experience working at a major big box outdoor retailer. Customers are returning counterfeit bike parts - tires, valves, chains, cassettes, pedals, tools, and probably other items.
ALSO;
People are purchasing counterfeit items unaware. Here are counterfeit valves on eBay being sold as genuine:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/116437202266
Do you think people are buying the valves above expecting to get fakes?
I have posted earlier sold listings for counterfeit klampers at near real prices. Do you think those people thought they were buying fakes?
The people being harmed are not people expecting to buy counterfeit items, they are people buying from unscrupulous resellers who are selling fakes. And they don't know it because apparently, it's not a big deal.
It's probably a big deal to someone who spent $40 on fake Fillmore valves or $400 on fake klampers ("it's a niche product", "they deserved it", etc.