We are all here from our shared love of bicycling.

We all have opinions. Some correct, some incorrect, but much is subjective so that may not be proven. Usually, probably a mixture.

But each person is worthy of respect. Disrespect comes to those not respecting others in tone, separate from merits of arguments. It is possible to disagree while still being respectful. It happens all the time in reasoned discussions, and the better conducted parliaments in the world. Often those intending to be polite will precede their statements with, "I could be wrong, but..." In reasoned debate, regardless of the particular merits of the argument, these are people I respect, rather than those who always assert they are correct, always, 100% of the time. Let us not give known public examples of such, lest this wander into P&R, and anger the mods, and they execute furious vengeance upon them to punish them for what they have done. (Jules, Pulp Fict... er... Ezekiel 25:17... DOH! No mention of R! Dangit!) Let's... just not go there. Trust me. Where was I? Oh yeah, polite discussion. No insults. That's the Tikit! (Jon Lovitz as Tommy Flanagan, SNL)