Chris built me a frame back in '78 which I still have, I chose Chris back in 77 because he was hand filing the lugs down to paper thinness and using silver solder and not bronze braising the frames together like the majority of builders back in the day. Chris's way of building frames had a very similar view to how I was taught to make jewelry and my understanding of metallurgy from my studies in college. His also like using dupont imron truck paint because he felt is made a stronger finish. Although I don't ride anymore, I still love looking at the bike.