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Old 04-05-25 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jughed
There is a ton going on with all of this, and I can't claim to understand most of it.

..-It then takes upwards of 2 years for production design
-Typically, 3+/- years before ground is broken, and 4-5+/- years for mechanical completion and operations to begin.

Moving bike production, sporting goods, basic consumer goods - that can be done rather quickly. But - costs will go way up.

4-5+ years for major plants/factories to be built - well, by that time the entire landscape can change, and the investments could be near worthless.

A nuke - 8-10+ years.

So, what are we seeing in the Engineering/A&E space right now? Nothing. Bupkis. Layoffs. Our clients, that span multiple sectors and industries - from "Green" to "Dirty Fossil Fuel" and nasty chemicals - not spending a dime.
So What will happen with this sudden shift in the entire Economic Machine, is something No One has a clear understanding of.
It's so complex and intertwined in everything, the outcoming changes will manifest for so many years.
So what happens... We All Freeze... No real forward action... Investment in a 'Future' can't happen to a large extent, when one doesn;t have at least some hope of imagining the future.
What do you do with your money? your plans?

As relates to the US, sure there will be some very small shift to quickly compensate for possible lost business in the US.
But maybe it's better to 'shift' focus to other areas/markets ?
'Factory' jobs have been a decreasing part of the US economy for decades, and as noted, that can't be reversed in a short period of time.... The US economy has long since been driven by other sectors, and in all that time the US as a 'Marketplace' has been strong and growing...
When you put a complete 'ChokeHold' on your body, it will DIE faster than it would slowly bleeding out...
By Choking it, you have not resolved the bleeding out issue.
...when you have drunken idiots driving your buses, do you get off those buses? and if you're in a car driving alongside, what do you do ?

Ride On
Yuri

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