Originally Posted by
AndreyT
I'm glad you realized that the PNs in question refer to entire pulley assemblies (or "units"), not to pulleys themselves.
I believe Shimano started referring to their RD pulleys as "units" (e.g., including bushings/bearings and covers) and giving the unit a single PN - vice giving separate PNs to each small part (e.g., pulley, bushing/bearing, cover) - sometime in the late 1980s or early 1990s. That was well over 30 years ago, so initially I didn't think I needed to specify that I was talking about a "pulley unit" vice a pulley less bushing and covers.
Originally Posted by
AndreyT
Albeit I'm not sure why you decided to repeat my own words back to me above.
Because you appeared to be nitpicking and/or obfuscating. But on the off chance that you actually didn't realize the pulley units on this RD were in fact different items I also decided to be more precise, using Shimano's own terms from their documentation. That also appeared to me to be possible, since you had clearly stated initially that an XTR RD-M952 has "jockey wheels" that are identical. (You've since edited your first comment above to remove this claim, but the original language of your claim is preserved above where I quoted it when first replying to you.)
Originally Posted by
AndreyT
I'm sure that is the case.
Thank you for finally agreeing with
me that the two pulley units in question on the RD-M952 are indeed different parts and are not "identical" - as you originally stated.
Originally Posted by
AndreyT
But the topic has been rather well-explored empirically, mostly by manufacturers of aftermarket pulleys. And, once again, even if the effect is there it is definitely not sufficient to cause such severe the symptoms as described by the OP.
I wouldn't be so sure about that last point; see below.
Originally Posted by
Tango1
I switched the lower with the upper, same jockeys.
Cables are externally routed, its a 2007 Santa Cruz Stigmata.
I was skeptical but on the stand this morning it worked. I'll check again tonight.
Apparently it's been explored empirically by the OP in
his particular case, and in
his particular case it does in fact appear to have made a difference.
But hey: believe whatever you want to believe. I'm done with this discussion.