The very first ones.... the cleat was monster.... you could slide on it on a foot down hard turn if you had to it was designed to function well AND to last forever which is exactly what it did. Now I need new shoes because it's not compatible with the new ATAC cleats. When I bought mine Time and Shimano were gettin ready for their big head to head in this market. Time must have realized that having a proprietary cleat/bolt pattern would not do. I did however get the first pair of Sierra pedals and shoes as a combo for .....wait for it.....200$ from Racer Sportif. Now, designed to wear out and fail faster, the new one I bought is totally wimpy in comparison, designed for obsolescence...BUT it bidness so no surprises there. I'm just bummed the design changed so much I need to drop 200-300 bucks on new shoes. That wasn't in the plan at all.

Even with my old cleat being 12 years old it still had more metal than these new ones.
He asked me if it was ATAC road or MTN ....what's the difference? Are ATACs different for the road vs mtn? Ultimately the plan is for Times on all bikes and one pair of shoes.