Thanks!!!

I looked at Jensen earlier this week. That Cervelo gray gravel frame a lotta places have it for the $3,999. Great price, just deciding if I can live with that military grey color and GRX components. And 40m tires. I prefer more traditional road components. There is a road version of the Cervelo locally for $5k.

The Scott I have found for $2,999 elsewhere, $500 less than Jensen.

Kona is aluminum frame and Shimano Claris. A non-starter.

Questions on Cervelo : would the 40m tires be smoother riding than the 30m the road version comes with? Also odd - to me - standover height is taller on gravel than roadie. I would expect geometry like chain stay length to be more on gravel , but why would something aimed at off-road be 1cm taller?