Climbing with the Billie Bars was fine with my hands on the curve at the front. I managed to keep the bars from tangling with my knees, but Descending is not so good with my hands back on the grips. I’ve done similar down hill segments in the drops of road bars and feel much more part of the bike. ALSO, the bar/stem clamp could not be tight enough with so much leverage at the grips. The bars needed adjusting on two occasions with the Technomic Deluxe bolt as tight as I dared. I do not plan on doing anymore serious gravel rides with these bars. (The L.A. Invitational is a hard but fun ride.)