Originally Posted by
maddog34
there's a phil wood machine on ebayt now.. for 6700 dollars.... the Hozan spoke machine sells for about $2000... there's an AliExpress unit selling for $1400 (Update: Now priced at $3145 and change.. gee, Thanx, DON

.)... i won't speculate on it's ability to function for more than a wheel's worth of spokes... and the Hozan thread-only, vise mounted, hand cranker is selling for between $100 and $300, presently...it looks incredibly flimsy, but might be ok for onesy-twosy stuff, eh? ever used one of those?
so a good :"cut and thread" machine is cost prohibitive.
i'll keep shopping with SunnySpokes and SugarWheels, thanks.
SugarWheels always does me right on nips too... i buy a thousand at a time.
I am talking about the Hozan thread only set up which is cheaper and yes I have used it and the Phil machine is WAAAAAAY better. If you are doing high volume spokes then a spoke machine is I think crucial if you are low volume then a whole different thing.