Originally Posted by
RH Clark
Why do you think that? What's needed is enough gradual adaptation to reach a goal. If you go to failure, then take time to recover, you often need much more recovery time. The extra recovery time becomes detrimental. Besides that, you wind up getting very sloppy in form toward failure. There's a greater chance of injury. Perhaps to the failure of perfect form and control might be closer to what's necessary.
Look at it in terms of specific reps done with specific weights. If you wind up with more reps over time because of less time off for recovery or injury, chances are you get greater gains.
As far as whether or not you failed, only you get to decide. I say you are doing very well in just the attempt. At least you didn't kill yourself. Sometimes I think it's good to listen to the voice that warns us to back down.
To clarify my OP - I'm not planning* to train to failure in the future, nor do I think its the correct thing to do on a bike. It's not a pleasant experience.
Weightlifting was powerlifting for me - we trained to failure to force adaptations. And we adapted.
*My refined question - can positive adaptations happen when training on the bike to failure from time to time? Shocking the system of sorts... or are those intervals/efforts just wasted? I'm getting a little bit of both answer off the interwebs...