Originally Posted by
tds101
In the video they say it has "231lbs of cargo carrying capability". Is this total weight capacity, or in ADDITION to the weight of the rider? Dahon is INTENTIONALLY playing games, trying to avoid legal responsibilities, by speaking in riddles concerning their specifications...

On
their page for the Hemingway Gravel, starting about 2/3 of the way down, they say that Loading Capacity is "up to 231 lbs." A bit further down, in the "Adaptable for most riders" section, they show "231 lb. max." next to a silhouette of a man and woman and above a weight.
In the bottom section of that page, they say: "Max rider weight: 231 lbs."
It seems pretty clear to me that this is the maximum loading of the bike, including rider, accessories and luggage that isn't included.
I think it's a bit more straightforward than what they do with motorcycles, where they have a Gross Vehicle weight, which doesn't include the weight of the bike, battery, fluids, rider, accessories and luggage.