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Old 07-15-25 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark
The claim is hookless rims on mountain bikes (and presumably gravel bikes) can result in tubeless pinch flats. I am not even sure that is a thing, but it is a bit of a flimsy excuse. I never heard of hooks weakening the rim. I think it is just easier/cheaper to manufacture a carbon rim without hooks. There don't appear to be many aluminum hookless rims for some reason...

For higher-pressure road tubeless applications, a case can be made that hookless rims are less safe, in terms of tires blowing off.

I think the "scam" part is claiming hookless is superior, especially for higher-pressure road applications. Enve has a (rather short) list of tires it regards as safe and compatible with its hookless rims. That does imply a very small margin of error.
There were early hookless aluminum rims. Back when few clincher tires were narrow and high pressure. I cannot give details even though I worked in a bike shop in that era. My excuses - I rode sew-ups exclusively and it wasn't until my last year that high performance clinchers were just starting to become popular and that was my post-head injury year of complete information overload. A clincher rim was a clincher rim. Now I studied those sewup ones!
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