Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy

I've been riding with the same group for over 25 years. The group has become much smaller in the last few years! Amazing how few people have staying power, i.e. will accept that can't do what they used to do and so give up. Several of our riders have gone to e-bikes. E-bikes are getting a bad rap here. Our e-bike riders try to "push the button" as little as possible, mostly on hills. They can still get a 3 hour ride at the same relative intensity that they've been accustomed to using. That's a very good thing. As we age, our watts go down, duh. So the thing to do is to add a few electric watts to make up for what's not there anymore. One is still working at the same percentage of max watts that one used to ride. The key element is that one can keep riding for hours at the same relative intensity. One of our founding riders is 83. She's gone electric and is still riding with the group which has many kids still in their 70s.