Originally Posted by mschwett

now that I think about it, for utility rides, if I discover I need to go somewhere I don’t go often within the city, I often follow google’s route advice for cycling. it gives decent choices with regard to hills and rarely picks a terrible route. checking a few full crosstown routes, it picks exactly what I’d do and knows about slow streets, car free streets, and MUPs.

so it’s getting there - can’t speak for garmin but I imagine it’s far worse.