I've been riding and racing for 40+ years
Starting with chamois shorts
then with synthetic liner - easier to care for.

And 10 years ago, I was racing triathons, which have specific shorts.
But those have all worn out.

So I looked for new ones
They ALL come with massively thick 3D liners - which I cant stand
(ok - semi useful on the full carbon saddle on my track bike)

So who makes real cycling shorts with FLAT liners?
I checked Sugio, Peal Izumi, Trek - no luck yet

thanks