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Old 09-03-25 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Yan
The weak point on Ortliebs is the plastic rails the hooks attach to, which eventually deform. Arkel uses a metal rail. However, Ortlieb's fabric is more durable than Arkel's, especially the Classic line with the old PVC coated fabric.

I prefer pocketed panniers to single bucket panniers. Lack of any external compartments is inconvenient.
I like a couple of exterior mesh pockets to dry out wet gear during the day.
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