Originally Posted by
TiHabanero
Nothing unique about my needs outside of my personal expectations and preference for metal over plastic for the mount system. Sure wish I could see the Arkel bags in person, but from what I can see online, the mount system is superior. The Jandd bags I just picked up easily mount up and are super secure. The bags are going nowhere, don't move around and don't need shims. Again, a superior design.
Keep in mind each individual has their own peculiarities, and mine are lifetime durability and simplicity. FWIW, my car is an 88 Volvo 240, which may help explain things.
That is helpful. It’s well known that the Ortlieb mounting system is the industry standard for reliability and durability however, if you’d like to satisfy your unfounded preferences with a metal mounting system, then good for you. The fact that Ortlieb mounting system is also incredibly convenient being able to mount and remove the panniers making it a single-handed operation is fantastic. Finally there’s no way I would purchase a non-waterproof panniers for any use other than perhaps a grocery hauler because there’s nothing more frustrating when on a tour than to have non-waterproof panniers.