I tried one of those apps and have it loaded on my phone still. It didn’t seem very easy to use, especially when getting into the shorter headtube on the chrome bike. On that one I kept getting like 76 degrees or more on the HT which I didn’t think would be correct except after an accident which didn’t seem to be the case. Operator error I concluded as I guess I am a Neanderthal with tech stuff. Kinda surprising how the International is listed as biased toward touring but still has a shorter wheelbase that these and not really relaxed angles. The geometry of the green one intrigues me most. I’m sure I will have to use a seatpost without setback so as to accommodate my usual riding position. My knees complain a bit if I’m too far back relative to the bottom bracket. All useful info no matter how one approaches it.