View Single Post
Old 11-26-25 | 04:41 PM
  #15  
RCMoeur's Avatar
RCMoeur
Cantilever believer
Titanium Club Membership
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Nov 2021
Posts: 3,197
Likes: 4,949
From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by nlerner
Perhaps this does not apply, but as gugie knows, I believe taking 5 pounds off your body will make you faster than taking 5 pounds off your bike, particularly if you do any sort of climbing.
Physics doesn't care if it's bike weight or body weight, except for minor issues such as the height of the center of mass. There is one significant exception: reducing rotating wheel mass can deliver performance benefits greater than just dead weight savings, as reduced effort is needed to accelerate the wheel rotation. A Schwinn Varsity with racing wheels & sewups can sometimes be faster than an elite-level frame with steel rims and heavy tires.

My primary bike, the Nashbar Flashback "Alumicruiser", could weigh as little as 27 lbs, like its faster near-twin the Alumispeedy. But I have found front & rear racks, fenders, a front basket, and a 2-leg kickstand to be remarkably useful, and so its base unladen weight is around 36 lbs. My older Ross cruiser is about 2 lbs heavier, almost all of it in the frame (light aluminum vs. old swing sets). I like them both, and have over 10,000 miles on the Nashbar and over 21,000 on the Ross.

But for a typical ride I'm leading, I add:
2-4 water bottles at 2 lbs each
my pannier with full tool and first aid kit + long cable lock
my side basket with my fabric cooler in it for leftovers
...plus me, a good 50 lbs over my Cat IV racing weight.

On either the laden Nashbar or the Ross, I can ride comfortably at 11-13 mph all day long. Fortunately, my group is very happy with that pace.

If I switch to the Alumispeedy (same basic frame & wheels as the alumicruiser, light rear rack & racktop bag), I can ride at 14-16 mph at the same effort level, and climb faster. And if I switch over to my Raleigh Pro at 24 lbs full-up with spares & tools, I can ride at 17-19 mph without too much exertion. Spending most of my time on heavier bikes makes the light ones faster when I switch over due to the extra training.

On the other end of the scale (literally), my Chicago-forged chrome Schwinn cruiser with Wald front & rear baskets and steel fenders weighs just under 60 lbs before you put anything else on it. That bike provides a "quality per-mile workout" at 10-12 mph. But it has a 7-speed hub and aluminum rims which help a bit.

Set your bike up for what you need it to do. If you want a faster ride, evaluate if you need to keep items on it, look into wheel & tire upgrades, or better yet obtain a second bike focused on speed. But remember that weight-based speed changes tend to be evolutionary, not revolutionary, unless you splurge for a 15-lb wonderbike. Then, wheeee.

But your bike(s) is/are your bike(s), and unless you're racing or Stravaing, ride the way you want to without comparing yourself to others. And have fun!
__________________
Richard C. Moeur, PE - Phoenix AZ, USA
http://www.richardcmoeur.com/bikestuf.html
RCMoeur is offline  
Reply