Originally Posted by
veganbikes
That is the problem "everything I have read" meaning you haven't tried it so you really don't know. In terms of shifting it works quite well but more to the point unlike Shimano you can rebuild their shifters (or at least could). The problem I have with Shimano mechanical is the brake lever is a shift lever which is not great Campagnolo has two shifters so you are avoiding that issue and avoiding SRAMs double tap issue where the shift lever does two functions so it is a bit harder to glean where you are on the cassette sometimes.
There certainly is a tiny bit of "mystique" because they for the longest time where the winners at all the races, much of their stuff has been handmade or carefully inspected by hand. They aren't building for the bottom they are building for the top. You can complain but that is a segment of the market and they have made some important innovations over the years. I don't think cycling would be where it is without them.
In the end though people sometimes go by preference but in a lot of cases it is purely just what you have already ridden. I know I have had those biases in the past because I hadn't given other group sets a chance and I think a lot of people have that. I have seen it personally.
Probably all of the top end group sets are pretty damn good and if you get a chance to try them all on the same bike and then make your decision it would be interesting. I would say on the electronic side they are probably closer than anything but mechanical I would probably give it to Campagnolo for the above mentioned reasons. However your hand might find another shifter more comfortable.
It's very hard to even get to try Campagnolo these days. It's been years since I've seen it in the wild. Almost no shops carry them and I never see anyone riding them. I rode with a guy two years ago who spent half the ride explaining to me why he left Campagnolo for Shimano. He couldn't find anywhere to get his Campagnolo bike serviced, couldn't find spare parts, and worst of all when he traveled with the bike if anything broke his trip was screwed because he couldn't get it repaired on the road.
But anyway it's not really a matter of me personally comparing both. Shimano is universally acknowledged to be smoother shifting.
So tell me, why would I, as a rational money spender, pay more money to "try" Campagnolo's less smooth shifting? I already know it's a worse product. Is my curiosity worth wasting thousands of dollars?
Makes no sense... which is the exact conclusion 99% of people make, which is why Campagnolo is going under.
A leads to B leads to C. It is what it is.
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Yeah I've already addressed the "all the high end products are almost the same" argument. Read my previous post.
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Yes they used to win races but nowadays they are nowhere to be seen in the races. In 2024 they even dropped out of the World Tour. If they're not even appearing at the Tour de France, where's the mystique?