Yes they had an incredible shop. One of the best I've been to in the world. Good decor, cool bikes, cool products. It was in a former industrial compound that had been converted to hip art studios and retail.
Actually you really can't. As you recall from back in April - because I'm sure you read the same news articles as the rest of us - there were tons of interviews in the news of American small business owners who imported their products from China (i.e. similar to Velo Orange). A lot of these business owners were forced to call around US factories to try to replace their Chinese factories. In the interviews they said America factories were too slow in production, far more expensive, and worst of all the production was lower quality. In the end most of the small businesses ended up still buying from China and absorbing the tariff themselves. Which as you know, Trump chickened out and now sits at around 30%. Still not a small number.
In fact far from getting a boost from the anti-China tariffs, US domestic manufacturing has actually continuously contracted for the past nine straight months. Yikes. One would have thought given everything from China is now more expensive, US manufacturers would have been better able to compete. The reality is that cost was just part of the issue. The other important part is that the Chinese are simply better at it. Better, faster output, technologically more advanced production facilities, and all while still being cheaper. How do you compete against that?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...er-2025-12-01/
It's an outdated mindset. Google returns whatever you search for. If you spend most of your time searching for economical household products, then Google will return a lot of cheap stuff, including of course clones. There's tons of high end stuff coming out of China if that's what you want to search for and buy.
They make the majority of the world's stuff. Cheap stuff, good stuff, all the stuff.
I can I wasn't talking about making stuff in U.S. factories but getting responses from people.
How is it an outdated mindset when it is still actively happening? This doesn't require google, just search on "ae" or probably even taobao same deal.
This is not saying that China is not also making good stuff as well I know they are, I know they are capable. But my point is if they are so capable and so great at everything as you are stating why the need to have so many fake products. It is not an outdated mindset it is the truth, in a previous thread you even linked to one of those items. This is not make believe or I am on internet archive and searching back in the 90s this is live right now.
If China were so great labor practices and IP protection would be better. You don't need fakes and knockoffs if your own R+D and production capabilities are so great. And again I am not saying China doesn't make some decent stuff and doesn't have that capability so please do not keep getting it wrong but to truly be great you wouldn't need all the other stuff!