Originally Posted by
Senrab62
Wonderful haul!
I'm partial to the P14s myself. With a little cleanup, they'll look even better.
Interesting that they have the brake setup "European style" with the front brake lever on the right side. That was the common setup for fixed gear bikes and path racers in the UK.
These pre-dated the CPSC's brake lever orientation mandate. Makes sense; a competent rider should want the front brake on the right side to keep the left arm open for signaling.
Originally Posted by
vintage cellar
They look like different size frames. What do the seat tubes measure ?
I haven't taken a measuring tape to it, but they're probably both 24" CTT. Remember, the P14 will have a higher BB for track use. Of note, it has 170mm Record Pista cranks, not the more common 165mm.
Originally Posted by
Kevin7
Holy long reach Campagnolo brake calipers batman!
I didn't know Campagnolo made long reach.
E-bay search... they don't come cheap.

A P13 from this era is supposed to have centerpulls and was never meant for Nuovo brakes - note the cable stop orientation on the frame vs. the brake.
When I bought my '70 chrome Paramount (an absolute duplicate of this bike) in ~2008, it's brake configuration was also nearly dead-on identical: Nuovo brakes on 700Cs with the rear drop bolt...and the caliper slots had been
filed butchered almost to the bottom to reach the 700C rims. I'm betting that's the case here too.
The mess above was properly re-configured with the Schwinn-marked Dia-Compe centerpulls and Weinmann levers paired to 27" rims, even though I've never been a fan of said centerpulls:
-Kurt