Originally Posted by
elcruxio
Gotcha. No one should ever use a camping stove since open flames are involved and something might catch fire. A sad day for anyone owning a fireplace as well...
The risk of taking the chain off, hanging it by the ends and running it quickly through a camping stove flame is about the same as with boiling water with the same stove. Or hot waxing in general. Or burning a candle. If you don't purposefully try to set the chain on fire, it won't catch fire. But I will have to emphasize that I have not yet managed to ignite the chain. Even with the solvent wax test the solvent burned off but the wax remained.
No, no “gotcha”. Generally speaking, camp stoves aren’t meant to be waved around like a torch. I was envisioning you leaving the chain on the bike and passing the stove under the chain. Get the stove too close to a tire or set the solvent on fire and there’s going to be problems.
And how much time to you have in camp at night? Taking a chain off to heat it over a flame? I got more things to do at night then taking bits off my bike. And I can just imagine getting down on the ground to look for the inevitable dropped quick link.
It's not about hurry. It's about humidity. If you start riding in rain with a water waxed chain that hasn't dried, following your earlier statements, that wax is going to run off in short order. Or do you disagree? How do things dry in rain?
Oh, I thought you said that there is no way a water based lube could be re-emulsified. Much of the reason why I don’t use water based wax lubricants is because of the effect rain has on it. Anyone who has used wax lubricants in rain are well aware that the lubricants on the chain needs to be refreshed after riding in rain. I have done long (long, long) dissertations on why. Oil needs to be refreshed as well but for different reasons.
Now considering that there is exactly one brand of solvent wax available, that's exceedingly difficult to find in the EU, and even more difficult to ship (no volatile solvents allowed in planes), the realistic choice is either to use oil (nope), use no lube at all (also nope) or make the water emulsion wax work in all conditions. Letting some of the water evaporate overnight and heating the chain in the morning to A) melt the wax and B) get rid of any remaining water does in fact solve all of water based emulsion wax's problems.
Say what?! You can’t get Silca Secret wax? You can’t get Rock ‘n’ Roll? You can’t get Green Oil? There are a bunch of others that aren’t just available in the US.
Or have you never done a rainy autumn or spring tour? Do you not know what one might entail?
Please. Give me
some credit. I don’t just tour in fair weather. I don’t use water based wax lubricants
because I don’t just tour in fair weather.
But then you know that but are just being a Richard.