Originally Posted by
elcruxio
If you're being intentionally obtuse and imagining silly scenarios, that's on you.
Don’t blame me if you don’t explain something very well. Frankly, I don’t know of anyone who is in the habit of removing chains while on tour.
Enough to take a chain off, run it through a multifuel burner flame as it's evacuating the fuel line and putting it back. With some experience, taking a chain off and reattaching it is a super quick process.
I have far more experience removing chains than you do. I know how quickly they can be removed. I also know how often the quick link can be dropped. Additionally, I know that removing a chain in camp is just a silly thing to do unless there is a real need for it…like replacing the chain. Otherwise, it’s just best to leave the chain in place.
Not if it's solidified and dried. It's absurd to think that a chain could match a 30k rpm shear mixer.
A 30,000rpm mixer is just faster. That doesn’t mean that a chain couldn’t mix water, wax and emulsifier well enough to remove a significant amount of chain lubricant. Just the act of moving the chain around without water does a good job removing wax from the chain.
Only if you use bad wax lubricants. The good ones don't require reapplication after rain. You can usually get a week of rain riding from a rex waxed chain.
Go ahead. Pull the other one
If a Rex waxed chain was good for riding during a week of rain, then why the need to add any more and all the kerfuffleage about heating the wax to evaporate solvent? If it’s that good, why even carry extra lubricant of any kind. Me thinks this is an idle boast.
Silca is water emulsion. Never heard of Rock n Roll wax, so I'm assuming it's not available here.
Green oil is from the UK. Not the EU. Have you heard of brexit and what it did to trade between the uk and EU. Also, never seen it and can't find it from EU stores.
Not from Europe. But I really doubt you can’t get solvent based wax. There’s more than one brand.
So I'm just doing the math here. You say that wax lube needs reapplying after a wet ride. Yet your current one is going 2000 miles with four reapplications. So either you don't follow your own protocol OR you really don't ride in the rain. If it's the former, your words don't mean much. If it's the latter, I do believe your claims of your wet riding experience may be a bit inflated. Winter months tend to be the wet ones.
I chain I am tracking is on
one bike over 3 years. It’s not the only bike I ride and it’s not one I ride in winter weather. I have mountain bikes I ride in winter weather that have a different lubrication schedule. I also have done extensive tours where I have had rain days…often many of them. I just haven’t tracked mileage on that bike (nor any other bike until the one I’m doing now).
As to when it is wet, I like in a very different climate than yours. High altitude (1600m) in a semi-desert. March is the wettest month but not every March is wet and we can get significant rain in intense summer downpours. I don’t
always ride in rain but that doesn’t mean I
never ride in rain. I have also ridden for most of 50 years now so I’ve ridden in a fair amount of rain and am well aware of what it does to a drivetrain.
Again, this is just you being a Richard. I don’t disrespect you although I disagree. You can try doing the same.