I was going to ignore the man. Because instead of addressing the meat of my post - is the modern bike really all that much faster than a well equipped older bike, when ridden at speeds the avg Joe can attain... he took to veiled insults instead. Too cheap... too poor...

Lemme clear it up for him - and this goes for all the hobbies my cheap and poor behind participates in - fishing/boating, camping/RV's, world travel - yep, all hobbies that cheap and broke people do!!

Simple breakdown - I don't buy the hype. I don't buy the marketing. Boats, trucks, cars, RV's, bikes - anything for that matter - prices can be jacked thru the roof for a product with a few extra buttons or gizmos - or "stuff". Stuff that does little or nothing for you other than drain yer wallet.

Fact: (I've posted this here before).
My 2k aluminum Emonda - with a nice set of wheels and tires. Vs a riding buddy of mine who is almost the exact same size as me +/- on a Dogma. 100 mile ride, avg speed 20.7+/- MPH. We traded pulls +/-... our power meters read within 1% of each other. 3 grand all in vs 10+ grand all in. Aero bike, custom bike fit, aero position - vs - and off the shelf, self fitted alloy "entry level" bike. Exact same power out put. I was 100% comfortable - he complained about the ride quality and his position.

And what's funny - my steel 2001 Lemond (and I've posted this here before) is faster than my Emonda. So - a 2001 steel bike... do the logic... would be even faster than the Dogma in this case. And way more frigging comfortable...

Is the Lemond faster than a Dogma in the hands of a pro at pro speeds? No. But for us normal duffers - and face it - most people out tooling around on bikes are normal duffers - it matters little.

But all of that is skewed because, well apparently, I'm probably too cheap and or poor to know the difference.