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Old 05-27-26 | 08:16 AM
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HankMcStank
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Bikes: 1978 motobecane Super Mirage, 1980 Motobecane Le Champion

1980s Ciocc frame identification

Hi all,
Just picked up an old Ciocc frame on the world wide web, and im having trouble finding the year and model details.



The frame appears to have SL tubing based on this worn out sticker:

and the seat tube diameter, which is 27.2mm. There are unfortunately no model labels on the top tube.
Other potential identifying features include the cute little ten speed drive guy on the rear brake hangar:

Some painted fork details:

and two(2) bottle cage mounts:

this one confuses me the most, because all the sl frame documentation (sparse as it is) shows bikes with 1 bottle cage. Closest match so far is this sl frame from the 1984(?) Catalog, which has matching paint/decals but only 1 bottle:

so i suspect my frame is later than this. But i thought the ten speed drive bikes were all pre 84, so this confuses me.
Also thought braze-on fd hangars were more common after 84/85, but mine has none.

Any and all thoughts are appreciated, Im in the process of touching up all the rust spots with some rust primer and will then color match by hand. I dont think the paint warrants a full re-spray, although that could be fun(famous last words) and if the frame was just a frameset id feel less bad about it.
What group wold you put on this? Looks like the bikes only came with the various levels of campy, but imo anything lower than nuovo record is pretty ugly and i think a dura ace drivetrain would be fun and more wallet friendly.

Cheers,

Hank
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