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Originally Posted by
njkayaker
In the real world with a rider? Who knows!
You called a "real" effect, with no indication at all what you mean by that.
Most people are going to interpret "real" as being measurable.
Instead of being uselessly ambiguous, you need to indicate the watts that are being saved.
It appears an aero
frame saves about 5-20 watts at 45 kph. It seems likely that the seat post is going to be a very small fraction of that.
Narrower handlebars appear to save about 5 watts.
https://na.rule28.com/blogs/r-d/the-...ly-in-upgrades
You are arguing without actually differing.
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