I admit I am guilty of a little Trek badmouthing, I have never liked them. Although I did like my LeMond Zurich. But the ride was totally different. It seems that Trek is the overwhelming choice company to bash whenever something goes wrong, and that's why I don't understand........Does anyone really think Trek is a great quality bike? Or Bontarager? When someone asks what would be your dream bike, does ANYONE ever say Trek? I don't think too many would. Why does everyone knock them so much then, it's kind of like-if you already know they are crappy bikes, what do you expect? Does anyone really worship Nike, or Oakley? Or Ford? Whatever.