jim-bob.....Yeah, you guys are right. Too many of you are saying no. I'm in no rush. I almost went for a Kona Hahanna with a project 2 fork but the more I spoke to him about Kona, the more he tried to convince me not to buy it. I actually asked him if he was trying to talk me out of it and he said that it wasn't what I was looking for. ********** Then he said that there was a little rust here and there and that the bike wasn't perfect and ..........you get the picture. I guess he was surprised that I knew a little about Kona. He told me it wasn't worth coming up for. Then he wouldn't send detailed pics. He only had one of the whole bike from a distance.