thanks everyone. unfortunately it looks like vittoria is no longer producing the celeste tire. There are plenty of places to purchase them out there, but the price ranges from 40-55 a tire. I dont want to sound like a cheapskate but thats pretty steap for a clincher imo. im sure they are great tires. i have scoured the internet for the cheaper set (sold my glorycycles - but now out of stock) to to avail. oh well..if i want them bad enough i may have to bite the bullet.