Yeah, we were at Hidden Springs when you guys showed up. Jaycee is fast, if you climb with him you're too fast for me to climb with. We went up to Newcombs' Ranch and skipped the climb to Mt. Wilson. All those trucks went up farther for someone with a broken leg, think it was a hiker. Are you doing the Muholland Challenge? After that I will try to get some more BFers on the rides we do.