I have one of the basic nashbar road frames and have had no problems with it so far. I put a lot of miles on it last year and spent all winter in the trainer and have had no problems. I am getting ready to order another one in a different size because the last one I bought was a little too big. The frame seems very stiff but the ride is also pretty rough. It dosen't bother me too much yet because I am pretty young and haven't ever had a really nice frame so I just think of it as normal. If you don't care what name is on the frame I think that it is a good deal for the money.