i've got a friend who just got NM deep vees, and literally the first day he had them (he ran a front e-brake) he grabbed the lever without thinking. black streaks. could've been worse. If you're going to get them and want to keep running a front ebrake and don't want your front rim to look like **** in a week, find a creative spot for the brake lever or be real good at not grabbing it. it'll look like someone whiped their ass with your rim, and you don't want that.