my friend just built this bike for just 3500: Wilier Karbon 2 (used but mint condition), full D-A, Deda Newton stem + bar, Mavic SSL3 wheels, thomson post, arione saddle and Keo pedal, Conti Grand 3000. Now if you can show me a bike shop that sell a full D-A group + Mavic SSL3 wheelset, a really nice carbon frame for 3500.

another friend of mine built his litespeed for just around 3500 too: Litespeed Tuscany (1250), full Campy record (1100), Campy Eurus wheels (600), Deda newton stem+bar, thompson seat post, arione saddle, and Keo pedal, conti grand 3000.

If you get those bikes off the rack, how much would it cost?