Originally Posted by Vinokurtov
And it's also based on two bikes that were designed with two different applications in mind. There are some pretty amazing long distance carbon frames out there.
I don't necessarily agree. The ibis Ti Road and the Cannondale Six13 are both pretty much full bore racing frames from what I can see.
You CF weenies don't GET it. It's not that CF doesn't absorb road shock, or that it's not comfortable - of course it does/is. It's that it doesn't FEEL like Ti.
Ride one for a couple of weeks (a good Ti frame) and get back to us later. Unless you're too happy riding to EVER post here again. Which could happen : ).
Ti frames with carbon seat stays? Interesting. They're popular on the high end. I'd LOVE to try one of those some time. That might REALLY be the ticket.