Originally Posted by Patriot

Ti sucks?

It's one of the stiffest frames I've ridden. Very similar to my cf racing frame.
And of course, a good set of integrated carbon bars is best for topping off any good quality Ti frame.
I have a few bikes lying around, and my new Ti machine is one of my favorites. Heck, all three of my road machines are my favorites, but for differant reasons. I even love cruising to work on my 27# steel commuter.
It's not my fault you guys are all biased.