Originally Posted by dutret
Saying the are disenfranchised is disingenuous, all of the above problems are a direct result of their violating visa laws. They are able to be exploited by employers because they are breaking the law and employers are able to blackmail them into accepting poor working conditions with this knowledge. Yes this sucks but short of completely abandoning all visa regulation I see no way to avoid it. There will always be illegal immigrants and they will always be ripe for exploitation.
It's not at all insincere. I don't like to split hairs, it takes away from the discussion. Here; [Adj.]disenfranchised[/Adj.] but in the future lets say marginalized for the sake of getting past it.
There are solutions to that problem in place for some systems and in the works for others. The best examples are local police departments that allow officers to ignore immigration status at all points, at all times. They don't even ask, it isn't their business. This could easily be extended to OSHA and other agencies with no conflicts. There is good reason to do so as you've pointed out.
And the law doesn't work that way, allowing/ignoring/failing to recognize violations because another violation has occured or was commited by the victim. A day to day example; when someone opens a door and sends you sailing into the air to meet the ground again it makes no difference that you were splitting lanes, or otherwise riding in an illegal fashion. None whatsoever.