uhhhh, reading the thread would be a good start. the big kids were discussing the merits of slowing by resisting the pedals versus skipping/skidding. no one ever mentioned brakes.

normal force, averaged over time, is constant. averaged over distance, it is not. normally i wouldn't dignify such belligerent contrarianism but i write this on the outside chance that you might have confused an innocent bystander. this will be my last post on the matter.

dutret, if somebody here hurt your feelings at some point, that's a shame. i hope you don't let it turn you into as bitter of a person as your posts reflect.