wow...wow...this thread wasnt about putting up obsticles and taking them down it was about riding through the trail and being ridiculed for being a different kind of rider. Most of the arrogant nasty people just happen to have expensive bikes, expensive clothes and bad attitudes... all I'm saying is that when I meet someone like that on the trail if they bother me enough I just might tell them to race me or put a skirt on with those tights No offense to the ladies as the ladies usually arent the ones makin the trouble.