Originally Posted by -=Łem in Pa=-
They dont have to be speeding, Gene....
The difference between someone going 45 in a 50 zone
is much less than some going 15 in a 50 zone....
I tired of taking a beating on this so this will be my last post on this
thread for a while.....we choose a mode of transportation that is
inherently much slower than almost all others. To inflict this on
other people who are clearly in the majority and maintain their own
'flow'(?), to me is wrong. If you decide to do so, great, I dont have
a problem with it. I am only opining that we shouldnt be complaining
about harrassment or no public support when we are assualting them,
real or imagined, in our own way.
First, and foremost not all commuters that ride bikes CHOSE that form of transportation... they may be economically forced to ride bikes... ask any college student. That was the reason I rode everwhere while I was a student.
Second, you have failed to address both me and Owltooth with an answer to how to "ride your way" when no alternative roads exist. We both mentioned using the only road that goes between two points and you failed to address this. We both mentioned that the roads were multilaned, so drivers had an alternative, but may fail to use their alternative... thus the problem is their's not ours... yet you don't see it that way.
Your main issue seems to be with groups of roadies that use the entire road... fine... go find them and address the issue... they are not likely to be commuters.
Third the delays you seem to be worried about that may come about as traffic moves around a cycling commuter are less than the delay one typically gets at a stop light... so it is not as if we are actually effecting the over all timing of anyone getting to work. You specifically mentioned 15seconds (for the burger guy) Stop lights are typically 50 seconds. So you are way off the mark there.
I think it's time to renew your meds.