Alan,

We get it already. You have either a personal dislike for Motobecane or for BikesDirect. Yes "real" Motobecanes were made in France, "fake" ones made in Taiwan or mainland China. Your argument that no "good" bikes shops sell Motobecanes is specious at best. Motobecane is now a house brand, most of the owners here know that, You won't find any "good" bike shops in the cities you mentioned selling Douglas, Scattante or other house brands. As much as you would like others to think so, comparing a fake Motobecane to a "Walmart" bike, now who is being dishonest here! Many bikes from makers you never degrade use the same frames from the same factories in SE Asia.

As far as your posts go in these threads, you always seem to post when the thread is waning or about to die, this of course perpetuates the thread on the first page and directly contradicts what you say you hate about all the "BD Shills" you say exist on these forums.

If you have seen my other posts about the two BD fake Motobecanes I have purchased or the TST Ti build up or the Cannondale Tandem or the Klein Quantum Elite I have you certainly know I am not an employee or sales rep for BD. I spoke of what I liked and disliked, what I had to change and how the customer experience was. You sir, have little or no first hand knowledge of that as is evidenced by you posts. I do not expect you to respond to this posting, as you seem to disappear into other forums when challenged.

I am still perplexed as to why the vendetta against BD and Motobecane, you don't seem to post or have any problems with Windsor or Dawes when those threads pop up. It is really ashamed because when you post in other topics you seem articulate, intelligent and provide real benefit to the OP and thread in general. In these threads you seem small, petty and vindictive.